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    May 08, 2020

    Football Manager - It appears Son was a little too "Inspired by the feedback".

    It appears Son was a little too "Inspired by the feedback".

    Posted: 08 May 2020 04:17 AM PDT

    Of course this is what happens in a Ramos testimonial game

    Posted: 08 May 2020 06:31 AM PDT

    I don't feel so good...

    Posted: 08 May 2020 08:28 AM PDT

    My DM two minutes after being booked:

    Posted: 08 May 2020 06:46 AM PDT

    How (and why) to use the libero role: a very excessive and overly informative guide

    Posted: 08 May 2020 05:39 PM PDT

    How (and why) to use the libero role: a very excessive and overly informative guide

    Made this while working from home for FM nerds like me. See bottom for crucial screen shots.

    I'm using a libero on my sunderland save and it has been so much fun, its confusing/concerning to put one of your 3CBs on an "attack" duty and I was really hesitant to do so for the longest time but the way my team plays is simply amazing to watch and that is because of the libero.

    Lets start with some important things: the libero IS a playmaker role. That means other players will use him as such: they will cycle possession through him, look to him when under pressure to relieve it, and make runs when he has the ball. You should also think of him as one when he has the ball: he will try riskier forward passes and longer passes. Traits like tries killer balls, but ESPECIALLY switch to other flank and attempts long passes, work super well on this guy. The only way he differs from roles like DLP or AP or roaming playmaker, is that he won't really run up to players in support and ask for a short ball, he stays more in the center of the pitch in front of the defense no matter who has the ball.

    The libero also requires a 3 at the back system to work, with the Libero being the middle man. This is pretty obvious I guess but whatever. One thing I will note, is that the other two CBs should NEVER BE INSTRUCTED TO STAY WIDER in this scenario. I say this because IMO "stay wide" for CBs is an instruction that works super well in other 3atb and even 2CB formations in FM20. HOWEVER for the libero, since he is going to be caught up the field when possession is lost, its important that the two "normal" CBs are not starting much wider apart from each other, to prevent u from having a massive hole in the middle of your defense when possession is lost before he gets back. I'd also suggest using just normal CD (defend) even if your defenders are good passers, because you do want them to funnel the ball to your libero which they won't look to do on BPD. I'd also suggest that both of the normal CBs are tall as hell with good heading- its great to have a tower in the middle but even better to have two towers out wide to prevent the supply from ever entering the truly dangerous areas.

    Next: the defensive line. Lets be real, was it ever gonna be anything other than a high line? Fm20 is all about the high line, but especially with a libero. You need him to be close to the rest of your team, so, I'd actually suggest either High or very high defensive line, with only a STANDARD line for the forwards. This way you are compressing your team, and making the libero closer to his midfield buddies maximizing his goodness. Don't push the rest of the team too far up. Use the offside trap, too- the Libero is not the best at positioning himself but usually finds himself IN FRONT of the other two, so keep the other two on defend (not cover) and with any luck you'll be winning tons of free kicks with opposition strikers thinking they just found a weakness in the middle of your defense but getting flagged constantly.

    Perhaps the most important: YOU SHOULD NOT USE ANY ROLE IN DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD WITH THE LIBERO. If you do so, whoever is occupying your DM spot is just going to stand right next to the libero and offer absolute jack shit in attack. Also, what the hell is the point of having 3 CBs if you're gonna park a defensive midfielder in front of them… do u even attack, bro?

    So the libero has support, or attack, but I will argue that libero on support simply limits what he does too much, its like going in halfway instead of just jumping into the pool. Why have a CB that only SORTA likes to bomb forward, he will still be caught out sometimes. Just man up and slap on the attack duty, letting him dribble more and try more "killer balls" (love that weird fm terminology).

    OK so now he's part of a back 3 pushing high up the pitch with an open patch of grass in front of him once your team receives the ball. Great! He's gonna move forward and look for a ball from one of the CBs or maybe get a backwards pass if one of your middies won the ball back. Then look to progress the ball up the field to the attacking players. But what roles work well ahead of him?

    Obviously with 3 ATB you're going to need wing backs or complete wing backs. For me, complete wingbacks actually fuck things up and try to do too much. I just want them to bomb up and down the flank, not try to come inside too much. And we all know that one wing back crossing to the other wing back is somehow the best offensive sequence possible in FM20, but on complete wingback you have guys trying to get into the middle of the box somehow. So I recommend normal wingback for width (on support. On attack they will shoot it 7 times a game). I also don't recommend using wide attacking midfielders. This means that to get enough in the box you're going to need two strikers, which you should have been doing anyway because again, whats the point in having 3CBs on the field if you can't go super attacking on the other end. Striker roles don't matter too much- please don't use poacher its just a shit role any way you slice it but otherwise just use what suits your players. I keep looking for a great target man regen but never find one.

    You also want runners in midfield to receive the ball from your libero. Roles that sit static are extra bad in this situation, since this is what your libero will be doing (think about a DLP but sitting even a bit deeper is what he does in possession). Mezzalla, or box to box mid are both going to be money makers for you. Although mezzala technically says in game that it is also a "playmaker" role, I find that to be a total lie- the man is a runner, getting into the box as often as possible. Whether on attack or support mezzala is a great midfield role to pair with libero. Attacking mid from AMC also works great, he will come deep to get the ball from your libero sometimes, while also sometimes looking for the space in between your strikers. PLUS; he isn't considered a "playmaker"!!! That doesn't mean he wont play great, defense splitting passes, it does mean he won't come short every time for the ball and then look to be THE guy who unlocks the defense- he's way less predictable, and that is only a good thing.

    What I'm getting at, is that THE LIBERO SHOULD BE YOUR ONLY PLAYMAKER! Do not use any other playmaking roles in this formation, and you will be amazed: so many players bombing forward into the box. Your wing back? He's got 5 heads to aim at. And you aren't even about to be caught out either: you'll put it in the net (because they are only defending with 4) or they will boot it out and counter: now your 3 CBs playing high up the pitch are ready to put in some crunchy tackles.

    While I do absolutely maintain that you should not use ANY DM ROLE, you should probably have at least one midfield player doing some type of defending. For this, I'd use a BWM (support), or a CM (D). The shortcoming of the CM (D) is that he does really sit and hold position, and unless you put him on the left or right side, he basically stands directly in front of where the libero ends up being and doesn't offer anything. BWM tends to float around more and I find to be a good role for just moving around and being a short, non threatening but useful passing option to relieve pressure. but man I hate racking up the yellow cards.

    Now- perhaps the most important question you may be asking: but who can play the libero role well?

    To make this all work, you do absolutely need the right kind of player. What really matters, is EVERY SINGLE MENTAL ATTRIBUTE. If you just click on libero attack, on any players' profile (as I have done in attached screen shots) obviously it shows u what attributes the game says are needed. It's the top half on the mental column that matter- you want him to just be a well rounded monster, if you're in a top league probably looking for all 13s/14s at minimum, being well rounded is the key mentally. The other thing is physicals- this man needs to be able to do literally everything physically. Fight for headers. Bully someone off the ball. Be fast as fuck to sprint back into his defensive position. Have the balance of a DLP. Stamina to do all of this, all game long. SO yeah I just told you basically you have to have an insane player mentally and physicaly to pull off this role… oof that isn't easy is it. This is probably why most people don't use a libero, I think. And the hesitance to have any type of CB on an attack duty.

    The good news is that his technical other than marking, passing and tackling don't have to be that good. The role claims that libero's dribble up the field a ton- simply not true in my experience (even on attack duty), disregard that. Vision and passing do matter, flair (which again they claim matters) does not. You will so rarely find a defender (or a DLP you want to convert) with flair over 10 anyway, its not worth worrying about flair. His dribbling DOES NOT need to be excellent, tho as with a DLP, I'd say look for decent first touch since he will get a lot of balls in space and look to control them and pass quickly. Lastly, another thing the game says that liberos on attack do a lot is take long shots- another lie! These guys rarely make it up far enough to take longshots (even on attack duty!) unless they have the "gets forward whenever possible" ppm which is an awful idea to ever train onto any center back even a libero. Plus, in fm20 longshots are so fuckin good that even a player with 7 longshots can bang them in. Not worth striking a guy off your "libero candidates" list just cuz he aint got longshots.

    So, you're looking for a physically beast, mentally beast player with solid workrate, very good vision. Other than that, technical wise you're looking for the same things you would with a ball playing defender.

    I've attached 4 screenshots, 3 of which are players I use as liberos and the last of which is my tactic. Doing my sundy save, I definitely didn't use liberos until I got to the point where I was pretty good Europa league team- that's when I snatched up Valdhinho on his Brazilian release clause at 18 and thought, this guy is way too good not to use as a libero! That started me down this path and here I am, trying to convince my FM brethren to use liberos.

    The others are my backups, tho I literally start valdinho every game if I can- even tho he isn't massively better (in fact glynn arguably looks better) he performs best at Libero for me. Kassimi is more often used as a right back since he is small and rapid as hell, but when I play against smaller teams, since he has "gets as far forward as possible" I don't mind giving him a run there. Usually glynn plays as the right CB even tho it hurts me to not make him a BPD since his passing is so damn good- BPD and libero pairing just doesn't work well.

    I'd love to get any suggestions on my tactic- im far from an expert and just starting using libero and 3 at the back in this FM. I hope this was entertaining to read and informative. Right now I'm either playing FM, or working while thinking about playing FM, it's the struggle. Stay healthy stay safe FM bros

    My liberos: Valdihno the chosen one (my first libero). Brazilian just seems to fit the idea of a libero, a player who cares first about attack, then defending later. The best possible version of david luiz, basically.

    What a god. I know 13 passing and vission doesn't look the best, but he really gets it done. Ignore the down arrows- we all have a favorite-son regen in each save, and this is mine. No 'dinho slander in the comment sections, i'll hunt you down.

    Johnny Glynn, bastard and toughest tackler I've known. Usually starts alongside valdihno but can also take his spot in the middle if he needs a rest.

    Despite \"not diving into tackles\" johnny glynn does in fact dive into tackles, all the time. and i love it. Never figured out why dinho performs better than him as a lib, but at least i don't have to worry about who to start in the right side of defense, ever.

    Kassimi- always bitches about playing time, shouldn't be surprised he wanted out from madrid despite being a starter somehow. He usually plays at RB, and with "gets forward whenever possible" im wary of playing him at libero against good teams, but in cup games I'll start him there.

    I mean he's born to be a right wing back, but he'll do in a pinch. long throws AND great crossing tho- r u kidding me?

    Here is my tactic.

    Please advise if i'm doing anything dumb here- i will say tho i am crushing teams, but i also have really good players so that easily could be why. Just because I am capable of writing this does not make me smart or good at fm lol. hardly any support duties might be the reason this tactic works so well, not sure

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    This game is no good for my nerves.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 11:11 AM PDT

    Out of nowhere, my full-back scores this unbelievable screamer.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 09:19 AM PDT

    Despite being sacked, this is one of my favourite FM memories... fuck you Sunderland

    Posted: 08 May 2020 12:20 PM PDT

    What a transfer saga.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 04:38 AM PDT

    My Greatest FM achievement in 14 years of management

    Posted: 08 May 2020 11:45 AM PDT

    fm20 save in 2044

    Posted: 08 May 2020 02:26 PM PDT

    i have a save in fm20 in the year 2044

    if anyone is interested in certain clubs or player drop their name below and i'll let you know about them

    something quite cool is ronaldo is the manager of juventus rn previously managing real madrid he had his own little journeyman starting as spal under 20s assistant manager then parma assman then chievo manager then valladolid then amiens sc then sampdoria the fc nantes then atalanta then southampton

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    one more step to reaching the premier league!!

    Posted: 08 May 2020 07:43 PM PDT

    No Idea how.. but I've just guided Bolton to back to back promotions.. EPL here we come!!

    Posted: 08 May 2020 05:25 PM PDT

    For all the players that have been FMed, this one is for you.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 02:56 PM PDT

    Don't know why I play this attacking crap.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 04:46 AM PDT

    Just came into a sudden, unexpected influx of cash. Who should I splash it on? Haaland? Mbappe?

    Posted: 08 May 2020 06:44 AM PDT

    Off field events made his determination drop to 6 from 16. What to do?

    Posted: 08 May 2020 09:36 AM PDT

    PSG trying to get Neymar’s salary off? What the hell is goin on over there?

    Posted: 08 May 2020 02:12 PM PDT

    Meanwhile Aston Villa finished 16th ...but are going to, and get this, UEFA Champions League after winning the Europa League while Liverpool are getting relegated. Chaos.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 08:40 AM PDT

    The local derby upset to end all upsets?

    Posted: 08 May 2020 04:04 AM PDT

    Hexagon Challenge : Part Six. Riding Off Into the Sunset.

    Posted: 08 May 2020 04:48 PM PDT

    Hexagon Challenge : Part Six. Riding Off Into the Sunset.

    Precedently in Hexagon Challenge : Oceania, more Oceania, Asia, Africa, South America and Europe

    ​

    Welcome to the final part of my Hexagon Challenge. As you'll see, the conquest of North America was pretty quick. But we'll take this as an opportunity to reflect on the career as a whole in this post.

    Before I start, I want to thank everyone who've commented on any part, it really did good for my ego. One or two of you have also told me that they started their own Pentagon/Hexagon because of these, and that's fantastic. Best of luck to any of you out there !

    ​

    Anyway, let's get into it.

    I left a Bayern loaded with wonderkids that should be stacked for the years to come, and moved on to Mexico. Jobs in Mexico have a tendency to not get open very often - interesting ones at least - so I prepare myself to be patient. However, Mexico gets eliminated from the Copa America 2044 in the Quarters Finals, prompting the sacking of their 4-year manager. That turns out to be great news for me, as the federation would turn to the Mexican Premier League to get their new manager.

    Upon seeing this, I immediately apply for the club he just left.

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    https://preview.redd.it/p2mnh2yebmx41.png?width=300&format=png&auto=webp&s=da8b589fdecb9f9e95e1259de254cdb0f89ebdd0

    And that's how I ended up at the helm of Club América. A giant of Mexican football, having won the most domestic titles (19 at the date of my arrival) and already 10 continental titles, although the last was in 2027, almost 20 years ago at that point.

    I was surprised when I met my team, as only 16 players were in that roster ! Not sure how that happened, but we would need some bodies to fill the room. Good news, we actually have a pretty chunky transfer budget of 35M to do exactly that. Perfect.

    Because of that situation, I would not go for the big transfer, the star that would change everything, I simply could not afford it. I had to bring in a lot of players and in total that's 8 players that would arrive with the intent of getting solid minutes. The main focus were midfield and wingers.

    Before I arrived, the club had already won the Mexican Supercup, and lost in the first round of the Leagues Cup, which is a sort of pre-Champions League if I understand correctly ? 8 Mexican teams and 8 MLS teams in a single elimination tournament. Anyway, we were out, so no continental football for me before the start of the actual Champions League in January, for which we were qualified.

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    2044/2045

    ​

    The season started very well, and the objective of qualifying for Apertura Playoffs (so top 8 after 19 games) would not cause any problems.

    Even thhough we were out of the Leagues Cup, we had the Campeones Cup to play. Sort of a North America Supercup, it is a game between the MLS champion and the Mexican League (or Supercup ?) Champion. Pitted against New England, we drew 1-1 but won the penalty shootout. A first trophy for me !

    The rest of the first part of the season went well too, except that in the last 3 games, we could not score, dropping from 1st to 3rd in the standings.

    We then could not score either in the Quarters Finals of the Playoffs, and would get out. Very disappointing, and a good opportunity to already qualify for next year's Champion League wasted.

    ​

    https://preview.redd.it/451lddw3fmx41.png?width=1392&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f0b8922324733043d7284a189266908a5570c1f

    Not much happens in the january transfer window, I don't feel we have gaping needs, and we don't have much money to do much anyway.

    Our troubles with scoring would continue at the start of the Clausura though, and we achieve the incredible feat of 5 consecutives 0-0 ! With the last games of the Apertura, that's 10 games without scoring ! A more radical tactical change than the tinkering I've been doing is necessary.

    And it'll prove effective, as we find the back of the net again.

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    https://preview.redd.it/v2umvytpfmx41.png?width=1392&format=png&auto=webp&s=8415ac28177fbc96d2f3e2d7c1fb2e1cacfae711

    These 5pts in 5 games have made a run at the top spot difficult, but our objective is still to qualify for the Playoffs, and that is still well in sight. We would indeed achieve it.

    ​

    https://preview.redd.it/c4upsm8yfmx41.png?width=1392&format=png&auto=webp&s=a85a1d7c7fc4d1a67281b37eecbba58a4016320b

    You can note that despite going more than a quarter of the period without scoring, we still have a decent Goals For number. Once again though, we would crash out in the first round of the Playoffs. Oh well ...

    ​

    Now, for the actually interesting bit. The Champions League.

    This is a weird one, I'll be honest. No Group Phase, only 16 teams in home/away ties. 4 from Mexico, 5 from MLS (4 USA and 1 Canadian), and 7 from Central America and the Caribbean.

    Basically, if you're not in the only MLS - Mexico confrontation in the First Round, that's a freebie, the other leagues being very very weak.

    And a freebie we got ! We got drawn against a team from Costa Rica. First leg away, and that's a 6-0 win for us. Complete rotation for the second leg, a small 2-1 win but more importantly, we're through to the Quarters.

    That's where the hard part begins, as we're put up against Monterrey, another Mexican team. So far this season we've beaten them in the Supercup, but lost in the League. That would be verified in the first leg away, as their dominant defense rendered our offense ineffective, and a 25m semi-volley right into the top corner would even give them a 1-0 win. We were much better at home, went up 1-0 before half, and then got robbed of a second goal near the end because of an imaginary offside ! And a wonderful goal at that. Infuriating. 1-1 aggregate after 180 minutes, that means a penalty shootout, of which we come out victorious 5-4. Thank god we're not getting eliminated because of a blind ref.

    After that I'm pretty surprised to find out I'm the last Mexican team in the competition, as the 3 others semi-finalists are MLS teams. And not even good ones ! At the time of the draw, they are respectively 9th, 9th and 11th (out of 13) in their conferences. i'm starting to feel good about this ...

    First one up, Seattle. Oh fuck, they were the ones that booted us out of the League Cup earlier this year. But we're a better team now. Better indeed, as we beat them 3-2 in Seattle. Could've been worse for them, we really dominated and conceded avoidable goals. We rectified that with a 4-1 win at home to qualify for the Finale.

    Real Salt Lake in the Finale. We start off well, but miss a penalty after 15 minutes in the first leg at home ! 10 minutes later however, we open the score. Huge relief for me. We even add up a second goal later, and win the first leg 2-0 at home, only allowing them to shoot 3 times. 2-0 is still a short lead though, the second leg won't be a walk in the park ... The first half of the second leg is pretty uneventful and we even score just after the break ! That means they now have to score 4 goals ! It's pretty much in the bag, given how bad they've been offensively. They score, we score again, and it ends up 2-1 for us. 4-1 aggregate, and CHAMPIONS OF NORTH AMERICA !!

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    https://preview.redd.it/irnr859akmx41.png?width=1392&format=png&auto=webp&s=d261b5f2a00a0ed79332cd069fda2251aedea8dd

    That was fast. I didn't expect this to only last one season, but I'm not too mad either.

    ​

    My career is now over, I have won the 6 prime continental competitions, I have conquered every corner of the planet, I have nothing more to accomplish in this world.

    Quite fittingly, 2044/2045 is also the first season since I left where AS Dragon did NOT win the Tahitian League. We've gone full circle.

    ​

    I have managed more than 1000 games, seen my 12 clubs score over 2100 goals and concede a third of that. I have led teams to 17 league titles and 34 cup titles, among which 11 continental ones as well as a Club World Cup. I am up to 8th in the Hall Of Fame.

    I've failed miserably in some places, and have created dynasties in others (AS Dragon winning 24 consecutive league titles, Henan Jianye winning 9 of the 11 titles after my departure as well as a second Champions League, Sétif not being that successful in the league but winning a 2nd straight Champions League, Estudiantes winning 6 of the next 7 after I left ...)

    And I have played this save for over 730 hours ...

    ​

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    My complete palmares (I'm not counting Supercups) :

    AS Dragon (2019 - 2025)

    - 5 Tahitian First Division

    - 3 Tahitian Cups

    - 2 Oceanian Champions League

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    Shabab Ordon (2025 - 2027)

    - 2 Jordanian Premier League

    - 1 Asian Confederations Cup (of which I've only played the Semis and the Finale)

    - 1 Jordanian Cup

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    Henan Jianye (2027 - 2029)

    - 2 Chinese Superleague

    - 1 Asian Champions League

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    ES Sétif (2030 - 2032)

    - 1 Ligue 1

    - 1 Coupe d'Algérie

    - 1 African Confederations Cup

    - 1 African Champions League

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    Deportivo Tachira (2034-2036)

    - 2 Venezuelian Premier Division

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    Estudiantes de La Plata (2036 - 2039)

    - 2 Argentinian Premier Division

    - 1 Copa Sudamericana

    - 1 Copa Libertadores

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    FC Nantes (2039 - 2040)

    - 1 Euro Cup II

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    FC Bayern Munchen (2041 - 2044)

    - 3 Bundesliga

    - 1 DFB Pokal

    - 1 Club World Cup (of which I've only played the Quarters, Semis and Finale)

    - 1 Champions League

    ​

    Club América (2044 - 2045)

    - 1 North American Champions League

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    Posted: 08 May 2020 07:20 PM PDT

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    Posted: 08 May 2020 10:58 AM PDT

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