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    February 21, 2019

    Football Manager - Me when my players turn 30

    Me when my players turn 30

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 03:21 AM PST

    Big Phil

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 09:00 AM PST

    It hurts man, this game fucking hurts.

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 11:03 AM PST

    I like this sub, it's funny and chill, you see a lot of nice wee posts. I've only recently got back into FM, haven't played it for a few years. Used to buy it every year but I guess I just sorta burned out. I've forgotten lots of things about the game, mostly how much I enjoyed it but what gets me most is how much it hurts. Man, it fucking hurts so much sometimes, it shouldn't be legal in a game.

    I'm not pure one of these champ legends who wins all the things and that, who can carve out these awesome tactics and find all the very best regens. I'm alright, I don't feel like launching the laptop out the window that often and I'm realistic about what I can ever achieve what with being a bit of a lazy prick who lets the assman do training. I got offered the Juve job earlier in this current save, they're my fave team an all, and I didn't take it. I'm 9 seasons in and they're pure fucked, auld shite team and no cash. I couldn't bear to be sacked from Juve man, that's a pain too far. I'm not that good at all, I defo know it. That don't mean FM doesn't hurt and I don't want to win every game, every defeat leaves me skunnered. I am realistic tho and know when the team deserves a kicking.

    In this save I started at Shrewsbury, spent two years there. Finished second in the first year (try to pretend I'm not but I'm gutted I didn't win the title) and that was defo a smashing year. Next season finished 16th in the Championship and was well pleased. Celtic (fuck knows why) offered me a job and off I went back up the road to Glasgow. The team did ok, won the SPL both seasons I was there and a couple of cups, got them to the champs lge semis where we were shown exactly how fucking far from home we were. Oh man, that was the first real hurt. Watching Simon Walton let in the 8th against barca in the second leg, 2-1 up we fluked it in the first an all. Oh man, the own goals. The abject and utter betrayal of these overpaid fannies. It was hard to take, it really hurt. They took a massive shite on us and we took it man, just sat there and took it. I have no idea what button I could ever have pressed to make big Scott McKenna be anything more than an SPL centre-half so out of his depth, I thought he had drowned.

    RB Leipzig saved my blushes, kinda. They offered me the job at the end of my second season at Celtic. They were German champions. They were a team of young stars, real gems. I like signing young players. Seemed like they were putting their faith in a legacy. Oh the arrogance. Oh man, what was I thinking? Justin fucking Kluivert! I thought, oh man it's nice he's here, he looks great. I bought an 18 yo left back from Hearts, mostly vindictively cause they wouldn't sell me him at Celtic. In fairness, he's 24 now and still there, Scotland's left back and one of Europe's best defenders. He most defo was not at that level at the time. They put their faith in me and I fucked it. It's there I learned the true power of PSG, a spectre that now haunts my daily life. PS-fucking-G man. Suffice to say, they bought the heart of my team and we frittered away a 12 point lead at christmas. It hurt man, it really hurt. We lost the title at Byern an all. Oh man, that fucking hurt. Cuissance is still there, still wrecks my team from time to time.

    I just quit the day after the season ended. I just couldn't man, I couldn't take that team anymore. Justin fucking Kluivert. Fucking, Timo Werner. Just didn't work out at all and I pure quit, like a prick. Then my luck came in, Monaco offered me a go. I fucking love Monaco man, I love em. I keep wanting to leave every year now but I can't do it, I fucking love em. The chairman is a dick, the club stupidly boxes far above its weight and it's a real nightmare but I fucking love em man, the crazy pricks :)

    Here lies the problem for me, what cause the pain, why this game hurts so fucking mutch. This is my fifth season at the club, first two years we won the league, we've won a fews cups too. Last two season have been shite, got fuck all. Last season we were 4-1 up against barca, fucking barca, then lost 6-1. That also hurt like fuck. We lost the league at PSG, they humped us 4-0. Really did love seeing the wee podium come out after that game.

    This year we're not going to win the title either and I know I never will again. I just can't compete with the financial muscle of PSG, I need to sell 114m of players each year to keep the club going. My financial projection screen is -256m over the next two years, so if I sit on my hand and do nothing the club is deid. It's so fucking hard man, I buy these guys and I fucking love em, I'm competing though, we do no bad. We're rated the 13th club in the world just now and we play nice football. Sometimes these boys go out and just fuck a team up, a big team even. We've pure wrecked many a team in the champ lge, even if barca keep making a prick out of me they can't take the other results away.

    Every year I lose a core of players and have to keep churning out these youngsters into the first team, many of whom get bought before I've even played em much. What the fuck am I meant to tell these lads who get big money moves, first team football and a change to play for better trophies? "Nae danger son, here's 75k a week and you can play in a team that'll play nice football but will always be second to PSG. Even if we do win it, of man a League 1 winners medal, ya dancer! That's defo the medal everyone wants. Oh boy, look a League cup winners medal!" You get the idea. I don't want to force players to stay, I care man. It hurts when they go, I'm proper upset. Most I sorta wish good luck, in the press conferences I give in my living room. You know, the proper ones the game doesn't do. "Good luck Solymene Diarra, what else can I say? I brought the lad through the system, he was 16 when I got here. He's a cracking left back and while I'm sad to see him go, it's his big chance at Madrid here. I told him such before he left. Run through walls for them son, every fucking game. You get in there and you fucking run through every bastarding wall they put in front you. You can do it son, on ye go." Perhaps in real life I probably wouldn't be interviewed much.

    PSG are free of Naymar now and have a team as good as mine, if not a bit better. The real problem is they have two teams as good as mine, they are mental. My second team can beat Paris FC and Bordeaux but they ain't good enough for big games. It's mostly kids and some veterans rotating slowly out the team. I can't afford more than that and I am constantly bombarded with offers for the lot of them, my team is ripped up year after year and the quality dips a tad. It's so very hard to keep up with PSG, so hard to keep the great kids and it hurts. It fucking hurts man. They won't every sack me cause this is realistically all they want. 2nd place and past the group stages of the champs league. I can do that, I can keep up there but I'll never win anything more. Those first two over-performing seasons, where PSG were shackled to Neymar's contract and a few poor purchases hobbled them enough for an average player like me to win some things, are a millstone round my neck. I'm just the guy who done alright with Shrewsbury and won the SPL with Celtic, possibly the easiest thing in champ to do. I can't compete with those cash rich bastards in Paris. I'm not ruthless enough, I care man. I love these wee guys and I like to lose myself in the game, that's what it's for. Perhaps that's why it hurts so much. Every player I bought as a teenager, the real gems you're proud of, the ones who go to Arsenal for 82m and after 3 years are on loan to Wolfsburg. It hurts man, it hurts when they sign your players and ruin them. I would have fucking kept him! I'd have fucking played that wee guy til he retired, if he'd wanted to. But no, now look at him, a fucking Freddy Adu. I hate that man, it hurts.

    I'm going to spend the rest of this save at Monaco, I think. No big club will come in now, I'll not win anything of import. I'd probably turn them down anyway cause I love Monaco. Found myself looking at a Monaco shirt online, thinking it might help if I wore one when I played. Christ, sounds a bit mad though, doesn't it? Do people do that, is it allowed? Can I get a Monaco shirt? How would I explain it to Lisa? "I just really like the colours sweetheart, nothing to do with FM at all."

    It fucking hurts man, I love champ manager (yes, I still call it that) but it fucking hurts.

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    You did well, my boy

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 12:05 PM PST

    Thought he'd be more of an ass man.

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 09:31 AM PST

    Looks like I have to buy a new right wing, clearly not good enough for the XI

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 01:06 PM PST

    Still not fired after 150+ years in the job

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 12:12 PM PST

    This has to be my favorite media description of all time

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 07:16 PM PST

    �� It's a hard knock life ��

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 05:35 PM PST

    [FM18] Keep your eyes on Harry Hamblin (Macclesfield, number 8)

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 07:18 PM PST

    The Good Ol' Kiss of Death

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 01:47 PM PST

    We don’t speak “broke” around here.

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 08:01 AM PST

    Signed from San Lorenzo for £5.75m

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 11:52 AM PST

    Squeaky bum time.

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 05:52 PM PST

    The story of a man who used to save scum

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 06:21 AM PST

    Hey all,

    this will be a long read. I hope to help people who also suffer from a save scumming addiction.

    I've been playing Football Manager since FM15. I've tried out a bunch of teams but would usually stick with my favorite, Besiktas Istanbul.

    In FM15, I've won the Euro Cup in my first season and made the Final of the Champions League in the next. I didn't get there because I'm a tactical genius, though. I save scummed my way there. I just hate losing. The players get demoralized, I develop doubts in my tactics, I lose my top spot in the league and the confidence of my board in me gets lower and lower. "Your 1-0 defeat to Bursaspor in the Turkish Super League was a particularly disappointing result." I just hate reading something like that. So I save scummed my way to winning the Euro Cup and I felt ok?! Didn't feel like the major victory that it's supposed to feel like I guess. Same thing happened in FM17, my second ever FM game. After two seasons, I ended up being bored and quit that game as well.

    As I've started my save for FM19, I made a commitment to never, under no circumstances, load an older save. I chose Besiktas, again, and started my management career as an unknown man, trying to lead a debt-ridden turkish side to glory. The fans greeted me with doubts and this time, I had doubts myself. Will I able to outlive my one year contract or will I fail to meet my board's targets and get fired before my first season in management is over?

    The first season started pretty well. 9-0, 8-0 and 6-0 aggregate wins over lesser known sides in the Euro Cup qualification rounds increased my teams (and my own) confidence 10-fold. My left back, Caner Erkin, played out of his mind, scoring free kicks and dishing out assists left and right. In the Turkish Cup Semi Final (two legs), we drew twice and lost on aggregate. This is where my resolve was tested for the first time. It was hard to fight my urge to reload my earlier save. The last time I saved was right before the game actually, because, you know, habits. And yet, I did it. I clicked continue and just let things outfold naturally. A few weeks after that, I won the title and got my contract extension.

    Second season: Super cup against Galatasaray. I was eager to see my new signings in action and my second trophy was just 90 minutes away. I didn't want to start the season with a loss, even though the super cup really isn't all that valuable (my board didn't even care, if I won or not). And so 90 minutes later, we lost. Heartbreaking and my second big test. "That's bullshit, I was clearly better than them. The game cheated me out of this Cup." is what I thought, what I always think when I lose by by two goals or less. I was just about to load my previous save, before I caught myself doing something I didn't want to do. So I didn't. I reached the Champions League quarter finals after winning my group. Lost to Man Utd, didn't care. Reached the semi final of the Turkish Cup. Lost again, didn't care. Just when I thought I was over save scumming for good, the final 5 weeks of the season happened.

    I was leading the league comfortably for quite a while, until a bad run of form made us lose the top spot to Galatasaray. Now with only 2 weeks remaining, I had a do or die game in my hands. Pepe scored in the last minute and we had hope for just another week. We had to win, Gala had to lose. The game ended in a 1-1 draw and 20 hours of hard work were for naught. I couldn't win the league title and was devestated. The offseason was hard to get through. I wasn't even going to play in the stupid super cup next year. And as you know, you start missing something, when you can't have it anymore. We started the season off on a mission however and with Caner Erkin still playing like he is Marcelo, David Alaba and Jordi Alba in their prime combined, we won the league. And the Turkish cup. And the super cup the year after. No continental glory but we cemented our place as the top team in Turkey.

    Now to Season Nr. 5 and my motivation to make this post. I hope to motivate others to stop save scumming. Not because I don't want you to win every title that you can but because winning "naturally" is SUCH a good feeling. As Season 5 started, I made my best purchase and sale of the save. Kenedy, a player I got a few seasons before on a free transfer, sold for 60M € to Huddersfield (who were relegated at the end of the season). I brought on a regen from LOSC Lille, Ceycun Cicek. Because of the 14 foreigners max rule, he was a perfect addition to the squad. A winger with great attributes across the board was definitely going to help us out and the main reason why I was open to letting Kenedy go. How much did I pay for Ceyhun Cicek? Nothing, got him on a free transfer as well. We started the season, I was hype and we were going to win everything this year. Super cup against Fenerbahce was going to be easy. My record against them prior to that? 12 Wins, 1 Draw, 0 Losses. We lost 2-1. "How the f*ck?", I thought to myself. First game in the season came up and we lost again. 1-0 this time. We were playing terribly, with less than 50% possession against teams like Alanyaspor. Next up, Fenerbahce again. They scored in the last minute, we drew 3-3. I was furious at this point. Caner Erkin is now 35 and wasn't playing well (on 9 Pace currently), so I swapped out the club legend (5 time Player of the Year by the way) for Jay Dasilva.

    A few other changes in Team Instructions and Player Roles led to ... a 1-0 defeat against Tottenham in the CL. Not a terrible result, though. Shortly after, we got our good form back and beat Tottenham and Milan at home, 3-1 and 5-1 respectively. At the end of December, we had our 1st place back, were 3rd in our CL group and were looking to do as well as we possibly could. In the Turkish cup, we lost in the semi finals AGAIN, this time against Bursaspor. Results of 0-3 and 1-1 were demoralizing but nothing was worse than the news that Ceycun Cicek was out for the last 2 months of the season. 18 goals in about 35 games for him prior to that. He was one of our best players and was going to be missed badly, as we had just beaten Porto, Ajax and GALATASARAY (first European duel between turkish sides ever) to advance to the semi finals against Schalke.

    Against Schalke I was so damn nervous. We did well in our first game and won 1-0 at home. In Germany, Schalke was attacking, getting all of the highlights but not getting past Karius. Two quick goals by Solanke finished them off for good and we reached the FINALS of the Euro Cup against Burnley. Wrapped up the season as champs before we reached May 22nd, 2024, the big day at Ernst-Happel-Stadion in Austria. Waited on my brother to return from work actually, as he wanted to watch the big game with me. As the players stepped onto the pitch, we listened to the Euro Cup theme (gotta get that immersion) and the match began. First highlight for them is saved nicely by Karius. 25 minutes in, we get a corner. Abdülkadir Ömür crosses it in, Salih Özcan heads it in. 1-0 Besiktas!!! My brother and I celebrate, as if it happened in real life. Burnley come forward. They miss. They are on the attack again. And miss. We get another chance. And we miss. In the 78th minute, I bring on Ceyhun Cicek for his grand return. He is at 56 % match fitness, so it's a risky decision. Nothing happens and as the final seconds tick away, the ref blows the whistle and WE WIN THE EURO CUP! I'm absolutely delighted and that's exactly what I tell the press. Knowing that I did for the first time without save scumming, I'm actually proud of myself. Next challenge: Win the Champions League!

    This is the lineup that made the unthinkable happen:

    • Loris Karius, Sam Byram, Konstantinos Mavropanos, Melih Yilmaz (18 year old regen), Jay Dasilva (Player of the Season), Abdülkadir Ömür, Salih Özcan, Trezeguet, Berat Alaeddinoglu (21 year old regen), Milos Vukcevic (21 year old regen), Cenk Tosun

    Hope this inspired those of you who reload their saves to try the same as me. I got way more emotionally invested in the game this way, good and bad and if you have a similar story to mine, I'd love to hear it. If you read all the way through, thank you for your time! :)

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    You can pinpoint when he stopped being a valuable first team player. Still not bad for 37.

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 03:54 AM PST

    Parlez-vous français?

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 05:32 AM PST

    Whenever I fail with an EPL team I feel like those eggheads in /r/soccer are making banter of me

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 04:59 PM PST

    I'm not a good FM player (sadly) so while managing an EPL team I feel under pressure and constantly thinking about the possible headlines at /r/soccer. Do you guys have similar thoughts too? They just make fun of everything, look at what have done to our Mou and Sarri >(

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    I currently have a player who’s unhappy because he wants a new contract, but won’t enter talks because of interest elsewhere.

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 12:44 PM PST

    He's a 22 year old CB with 171 Liverpool apps and 36 England caps to his name. He's going to be a legend, and he deservedly wants a new contract, but he won't sign because Man City (who have won 5 trophies since he signed for me, compared to my 32) are showing interest in him. He's free to talk to other teams in January, I'm so frustrated right now. This guy replaced VVD and he's going to leave me high and dry.

    Just wanted to rant, but if anyone has any advice as to how I might be able to talk him round I'd appreciate it. I know he won't be able to talk to City in January, but I'm sure Barca (who also took de Ligt from me, on a free transfer) will come calling too.

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    Adam Johnson was serious about not wanting to go back

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 02:54 PM PST

    Name a more exciting day, ill wait

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 10:37 AM PST

    Ched Evans forcing himself into the Team of the Year

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 11:48 AM PST

    My regen just scored a hat trick in the premier league at 16 years old

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 05:09 AM PST

    VAR has just ruled out this for being offside? You can clearly see the ball being played to the player circled and isnt offside! VAR IS A WAST OF TIME

    Posted: 21 Feb 2019 08:39 PM PST
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